Friday roundup: Throw another $75m on the Rays subsidy fire, Phoenix mayor opposes neo-Coyotes arena tax (2024)

access_timeMay 24, 2024personNeil deMause

It’s Friday again! I tried asking Google AI some stadium questions to see if it would return entertainingly daft answers, but I didn’t get much, so just eat your rocks and let’s get on with the week’s news remainders:

  • If an estimated $1.5 billion in cash, tax kickbacks, and land breaks for the Tampa Bay Rays didn’t sound like a lot already, turns out the $155 million that Rays owner Stu Sternberg wants to pay for 65 acres of land isn’t really $155 million, because he’d be making the payments in installments over 30 years. (St. Pete Assistant City Administrator Tom Greene estimates that this would knock about one-third off the value of the payments, making them worth $103 million; I get more like $80 million, but it depends on the exact payment schedule.) “I think that if you are not accounting for inflation in the agreement, we’re not getting the value that it says there,” said city councilmember Lisset Hanewicz, and, nope, inflation is not quite the same as devaluation for present value, but good enough for government work.
  • Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego says she “does not support using taxpayer funds, including property tax abatement, for sports arenas,” which is a blow to once-and-wannabe-future Arizona Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo’s plan to build a new arena in Phoenix using a “theme park” sales tax surcharge. “Tax abatement is essentially what establishing a theme park district does — so per the statement, she is opposed,” a Gallego spokesperson clarified — I’m still not 100% convinced that’s what it does, but either way, it’s going to make it tough for Meruelo to pursue his arena plans, at least unless the state legislature passes its bill to block city officials from having any say in such matters.
  • The city of Santa Clara and the San Francisco 49ers owners have resolved their lease dispute after, as the San Francisco Chronicle put it, “the five-member City Council majority, which was elected with the help of millions in campaign contributions from 49ers CEO Jed York, approved the deal 5-2 in a closed session Monday night.” The details are too detailed to figure out exactly who came out how far ahead in the agreement, but given the above you can probably make an educated guess.
  • Voters in Eugene, Oregon have overwhelmingly rejected spending $15 million toward a new stadium for the minor-league baseball Emeralds, who have to move from their current stadium, which is only 14 years old, because MLB is making them as part of its “force all minor-league cities to build new stadiums” plan. Team officials had previously said they would move the team if the stadium measure didn’t pass; General Manager Allan Benavides said following the vote results that he didn’t know what the team owners’ next steps would be: “We’ll have to get really creative if we want to stay here, or find a new home.” Or maybe MLB could give them a waiver to keep playing in their current stadium, though that would only help the Emeralds and their fans, not MLB, so don’t hold your breath there.
  • John Mozena of the Center for Economic Accountability (the makers of these stickers) wrote an op-ed for the Tampa Bay Times yesterday on why stadium subsidies in St. Petersburg or anywhere are a bad idea, which provides a good overview of the economic arguments and more than a few bon mots — I’m partial to “stadiums don’t create more economic activity in a city any more than cutting a pizza into more slices creates more dinner for everyone,” but feel free to choose your own favorite.
  • The St. Louis Cardinals suck, which means it’s time for a news report about how hot dog trucks outside the stadium aren’t seeing as much business. Are hot dog trucks on the other side of town doing better business as a result? That’s too hard to report, you’ll have to do your own research, apparently.

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  1. As a tangent on the Cardinals: we think of St. Louis as an unassailable baseball town, and the Cardinals fanbase as being fiercely devoted, when the truth is that the team haven’t given the city or the fans any reason to *not* keep supporting them for basically the last 30 years. Maybe the organization didn’t want to find out how things might look if it ever had to go through a roster rebuild.

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  2. If I had a vote (and as a non resident and non-member of elected local government, it sounds like I might be one of the few people allowed to vote on such a thing…) I would vote for the Emeralds to move to Oakland.

    Interesting that MLB now believes that short season High A ballclubs now require stadia that – not adjusted for inflation – cost roughly the same as the original incarnation of Oriole Park did.

    Nice.

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    1. Jackie Robinson Ballpark in Daytona has been standing for a long enough time, and is enough of an institution for baseball (and civil rights) history in the state of Florida, that adding the type of bells and whistles that MLB now demands of minor league stadiums feels illogical, even offensive. MLB nevertheless made those exact demands of the city and the ballpark — at the risk of having its team axed, of course — and the city government eventually acquiesced.

      It’s so cynical on the part of MLB that you almost have to laugh.

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    2. John: Oh, MLB required all minor league stadiums to meet very high standards as part of the “lucky” teams surviving MiLB restructuring back in 2020. Some of the amounts governmental entities have spent meeting these luxurious demands are ridiculous.

      They gave teams/owners/gubmints
      5 years to comply. Some didn’t. The deadline is up next year. Things could get interesting…..

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    3. Meanwhile, the Low A San Jose Giants play in a WPA ballpark built in 1942 that they share with a college team. So that’s acceptable but Eugene is not?

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      1. To me, part of the ‘romance’ of low level minor league ball is that you are playing / watching in parks that seem like they came out of a history book.

        Sure, everybody loves shiny and new. But as a revenue generator we know that capital investment tends to be less successful in minor league parks than it does in major league ones (where it isn’t all that successful either over the long run).

        I can actually understand the need to improve player facilities, clubhouse, medical, training, etc. But if that really was MLB’s honest concern they wouldn’t have continued paying the MiLB players less than minimum wage would they?

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        1. Really, the whole thing was just MLB trying to squeeze out labor costs somehow, and they couldn’t do it at the major league level, so the minor leagues had to suffer. You take out 42 teams, that’s a bunch of players, personnel, and resources you don’t have to worry about.

          Now, minor league markets have to fight every few years just so they can say they have the Atlanta Braves affiliate, knowing that they may just up and move anyway.

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      2. Most California League ballparks are super old and hilariously bereft of modern amenities, but apparently, they’re fine; yet some places are gonna lose teams despite the fields only being a decade or so old?

        I don’t understand why Eugene has to lose this team due to MLB forcing them to spend all this money while San Jose shares a venue with a college notorious for not spending money on any facilities in San Jose State.

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  3. Penn State is going to renovate Beaver Stadium for $700 million. It doesn’t seem like they are going to ask for government money, but donations to the cause will likely be tax deductible, so people all over the country will be subsidizing.

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  4. My brother used to say that all the time for various situations: “Good enough for government work.”

    I worked for governments for many years. That didn’t seem to stop him…..

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    1. The sexist alternative version I was taught was: “good enough for the girls we go out with.”

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  5. Don’t the Eugene Emeralds share a park with U of Oregon?

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    1. The Google satellite photo shows a huge yellow O in the middle of the outfield. The Ducks football stadium is 100 feet away, obviously that would be way too far for a minor league player to walk for a locker room.

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    2. Yes they do. So “Eugene” won’t be “without” baseball if the Emeralds leave/fold/apply for membership in MLB/KBO etc.

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    3. Yes, and this is really why the Emeralds are looking for a new home. Their deal with Oregon worked when Eugene was a short-season team, but now that they are a full-season team, there are scheduling conflicts with both Oregon baseball and football. They will relocate in the next couple of years, and Eugene will lose some summer entertainment because of it.

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      1. We have the same deal here in State College with the Spikes/Penn State.

        When the Spikes got shifted to the “draft league,” I thought it was the beginning of the end. I don’t see how the Draft League will survive. It serves no real purpose for MLB and it’s much worse than the NYPL.

        The Spikes still draw fans, but mostly for the beer, fireworks and cowboy monkey rodeo.

        And PSU baseball has never made a dime in profit. Until recently, I always suspected PSU might just drop baseball. The program has never been consistently successful.

        But there’s been a lot of new investment in the park and the program.

        Not much news on that or who is paying for what. But I suspect it means that the Spikes’ owners think they could maybe shift into a full-season league and/or there are boosters who think B1G baseball could somehow become a bit more commercially viable here.

        Attendance was way up this year because they stopped charging admission. They also sell beer now – very limited – but I suspect that’s a better business model.

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        1. The draft league players aren’t paid, so it’s no real skin off MLB’s nose if it continues to exist. And it allows them to say they’re not the ones getting rid of teams — if the draft leagues fold of their own accord, how could MLB have possibly seen that coming?

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  6. This shows what these billionaire sports team owners are. Paying minor league players $7,500 and providing them with gloves and shoes is such a terrible burden on a billionaire. However, a city with a homeless crisis and schools in need of renovation can easily afford an $80,000,000 ball park for a single A team.

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